Carnegie Still Open II
Greetings to all the faithful riders, businesses and supporters of our effort to keep the park open and alive.
The news of the potential closing, and current uncertainty, has had some negative effects on a lot of us and especially MotoMart, the concession store at Carnegie. Tony and Vicky Shipman and their extended family of workers have been our lifeline for riding with all and any service, repairs and supplies. Tony spends many hours on the concrete pad outside the store in all kinds of weather working on every bike that reports to his emergency room.
Pass the word out to all your friends and contacts to come out to the park and stock up on supplies while the dirt bike season continues. I’m going to do my part and buy 8 sets of new knobbies!
Dave Duffin, CORE
Tony and the crew at Moto Mart are certainly a lifeline for riders at Carnegie and we should support them during these hard and uncertain times, but don’t forget the others who support us and rely on us to stay in business.
I have been a loyal customer at Berkeley Honda Yamaha since I bought my first bike from Carl in 1977. I get all my oils and parts there even when I might be able to get a slight discount by purchasing them online or through mail order companies. The internet and the mail order companies are not there if I need assistance or when I want to purchase a new bike. They are not there to help us keep our park open.
The businesses listed in this website are there and should be supported because they support us. Please don’t forget them during this economic downturn. They need us as much as we need them.
* Animal Handles
* Berkeley Honda Yamaha
* Club Moto
* MotoMart at Carnegie
* Skip’s Promotions
* Tri Valley Moto
If anybody knows of other businesses who support us please let us know, and get the word out that we need as much help as possible. It is a symbiotic relationship. They thrive when we thrive and we thrive when they thrive. Got to go now… I am off to Carnegie to go riding (in part because of the companies listed above).
Stopped by MotoMart yesterday and got some new plastics and a dead man switch for the hillclimbs coming up. Told Tony what you wrote Dave, he laughed and said to say thank you. I thought about what you wrote and it is REALLY nice to have MotoMart right there. Carnegie wouldn’t be the same without a store there. Over the years I have gone there for everything from a soda to suspension work, god only knows how many tires and stickers I’ve gotten from Skip’s/MotoMart. Anyway, glad to give ‘em a little payback for all the help over the years. Good looking out Dave.
It is certainly great news that Carnegie is still open. Everybody should go there and ride.
But the appeals court heard the appeal about three weeks ago. The rangers initially told me that it would take about a week and a half for them to issue a decision. Nothing has happened and consequentially the park is still open. What is happening? My friend Dennis has a theory. He says that they haven’t issued a decision because they can’t find a reason to shut Carnegie down. He thinks that they are just waiting until they can come up with a reason. I am not a conspiracy buff, but what other explanation is there. We need to get busy and make sure that they can’t do that.
Yesterday at the Alameda County law library I looked for a profile on Judge Frank Roesch. It wasn’t there and the librarian told me that it had been ripped out of the book. She also told me that he was a very controversial judge and had issued some very unusual rulings.
On February 26, 2010 there was an article in the paper reporting that Judge Roesch had ordered the state to pay back pay for state workers who had been furloughed by Governor Schwarzenegger. The governor furloughed the workers three days a month last year because the state budget was in crisis. The paper reported that the governor was going to appeal the order and that predicted that the state supreme court would eventually side with the governor.
Glad you said it first Diana. I keep hearing “no news is good news” but in this case I’m not so sure. Seems to me, the letter from the water board, should have swept this case right off it’s feet. I’m no lawyer but the language seemed plain enough, this is not in the courts jurisdiction, it’s a case for the water board, and they are well aware of Carnegie, and have been working with them for years. Seems to me, if Judge Roesch had no personal involvement with the case, he would have jumped at the chance to clear it from his docket. But, like I said, I’m no lawyer, and maybe there is another rational explanation, although I wouldn’t bet on it.
I’ve come to realize, since all this began, that this is not going to be a quick rally together and beat the bad guy kinda fight. We are going to have to dig in and get comfortable on this battlefield, were going to be fighting this fight, or at least similar ones, for the foreseeable future. I’ll tell ya this, from the people I have met so far, I couldn’t ask for a better group of people to stand side by side with. We ARE Carnegie!
Jason is exactly right the fight is not over.
Even if we win this round and the Appeals Court overrules the judge, the threat is not over. The appeals court is merely deciding whether Carnegie should be closed until the State Water Board approves a Report of Waste Discharge. The Parks Department has long since submitted a Water Discharge Report and we don’t know when the Water Board will take an action one way or the other.
The Parks Department did not Demurrer to the third cause of action and those issues will eventually be litigated before Judge Roesch. CSPA and PEER are asking the Judge to force the Parks Department to immediately complete reports monitoring the condition of soils and wildlife habitat and to temporarily close all portions of the Carnegie SVRA until they have completed such monitoring… We all know that a great many portions of Carnegie have already been closed down. And so it seems safe to assume that the monitoring has been going on for a long time. But do we trust the judge to recognize this very salient fact? This is the part of the lawsuit that the appeals court is not considering and will eventually be litigated before Judge Roesch. In other words this lawsuit is far from over.
What can we do? Judge Roesch was appointed by former Governor Grey Davis and seems to be loyal to the pseudo greens. How do we defeat their overpowering money machine? How can we help defeat them in court? These are the questions that need to be answered. We won’t defeat them all at one go like David defeating Goliath with his slingshot and stone. We need to fight them one day at a time and never give up.
Maybe the appeals court is waiting to see whether the water board will approve the park’s waste discharge report before deciding whether CSFA and PEER can force the parks department to submit the report. It seems mute now since it has been submitted. By not making a decision the appeals court is merely, for the time being, letting Carnegie remain open. The threat is not over.
ANOTHER SECRET LAND GRAB THAT WILL AFFECT
RIDERS IN NORTHERN CALIFORNIA
As you are all aware, our state OHV parks are being threatened with closure, Clear Creek has been shut down, and now the current administration is proposing to shut us out of Stonyford. What are our kids going to be able to do other than watching nature shows on public television, playing video games and joining gangs? As usual this arrogant administration speaks out of one side of its mouth and secretly acts in total contradiction to its stated values.
According to the Blue Ribbon Coalition, popular OHV recreation sites including Stonyford in Mendacino National Forest are being threatened with National Monument designation. “Thanks to a whistle-blower in the Department of the Interior, a secret Obama administration plan to grab 13 million acres of public and private lands across 11 western states has been exposed.” This designation is being sought in the absence any public comment, input from state and local elected officials, or congressional review.
The Obama Administration defends its action by claiming that it is protecting this land for future generations. What it means for this generation, and our progeny, is that our families will be prevented from recreating in lands that we have enjoyed for years. If we don’t act now we will have nowhere left to ride. Go the Blue Ribbon site to find out more about this land grab and how to contact your congressional representatives.